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Hardware for EC01 to test aOS builds on

March 4, 2019 at 6:32pm

Hardware for EC01 to test aOS builds on

March 4, 2019 at 6:32pm
I think starting with the Raspberry Pi Compute Module would be a great way to get Embrace Clarity building aOS as soon as possible on a portable device. Until RISC-V compute modules are manufactured with decent specs, it seems to be the best way to get a working prototype.
I still have an extra prototype board from the project I've been working on https://github.com/thearkadia/The_Ark/blob/master/README.md I can ship it to y'all if you want to test builds of aOS and see any heat\hardware limitations need to be addressed for the homebutton\keyboard modules for the ECO1. I would love to see them work through magnets like the Surface keyboard does.

March 5, 2019 at 2:47pm
That's so kind of you! Again the project is at concept stage and is still looking for humans who resonate with the purpose of Clarity. We've already started a discussion about the future of the OS but seems like people come and go and it's hard to retain people interested in it :/
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That's so kind of you! Again the project is at concept stage and is still looking for humans who resonate with the purpose of Clarity. We've already started a discussion about the future of the OS but seems like people come and go and it's hard to retain people interested in it :/
I feel a sense of urgency about having a device thats made for the people so I feel like getting the concept of the OS running is the best way to see where you want to take it
The options are also pretty limited IMO. Android is too baked in with spyware FireFoxOS is abandoned Tizen\WebOS are outdated\weirdly sourced and no userbase
raspbian has huge userbase, is modern, opensource, and has most of what you need out of the box for a mobile device.
with funding or donated time aOS could probably have a prototype running on hardware in a week if it were as a full screen application or desktop environment. It would be amazing to be able to have a GameJam type event for something like this
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I feel a sense of urgency about having a device thats made for the people so I feel like getting the concept of the OS running is the best way to see where you want to take it
The options are also pretty limited IMO. Android is too baked in with spyware FireFoxOS is abandoned Tizen\WebOS are outdated\weirdly sourced and no userbase
raspbian has huge userbase, is modern, opensource, and has most of what you need out of the box for a mobile device.
with funding or donated time aOS could probably have a prototype running on hardware in a week if it were as a full screen application or desktop environment. It would be amazing to be able to have a GameJam type event for something like this
I wasn't aware of raspbian at all (for the record I am not a developer). As far as funding goes, I think we are at passion stage, still looking for passionate people willing to dedicate some time. I've been thinking of doing an ICO but I've been waiting for the release of Colony.io. The original concept for funding was to use Colony before the ICO so contributions will be rewarded with tokens that won't have value until the device is out in the wild. But I guess if funding is the issue then we can indeed go for an ICO and use Aragon to maintain the governance until Colony is out. What do you think?
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March 6, 2019 at 5:06pm
I feel a sense of urgency about having a device thats made for the people so I feel like getting the concept of the OS running is the best way to see where you want to take it
The options are also pretty limited IMO. Android is too baked in with spyware FireFoxOS is abandoned Tizen\WebOS are outdated\weirdly sourced and no userbase
raspbian has huge userbase, is modern, opensource, and has most of what you need out of the box for a mobile device.
with funding or donated time aOS could probably have a prototype running on hardware in a week if it were as a full screen application or desktop environment. It would be amazing to be able to have a GameJam type event for something like this
I'm glad to see discussion has picked back up here. A project maybe worth looking into is postmarketOS which is a preconfigured distro based on Alpine Linux. Alpine is super lightweight (around 45mb), easy to pick up, and it uses busybox for most of it's unix utilities. Plus the folks at postmarketOS have ported / packaged a lot of great stuff for Alpine. The only real downside is it uses musl instead of glibc which causes some issues compiling some things.
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March 7, 2019 at 2:40pm
I will do my best to present a click-through prototype by end of next week so you can get a sense of the concept. Got distracted by moving Cinema 4D scenes to Blender :D
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I wasn't aware of raspbian at all (for the record I am not a developer). As far as funding goes, I think we are at passion stage, still looking for passionate people willing to dedicate some time. I've been thinking of doing an ICO but I've been waiting for the release of Colony.io. The original concept for funding was to use Colony before the ICO so contributions will be rewarded with tokens that won't have value until the device is out in the wild. But I guess if funding is the issue then we can indeed go for an ICO and use Aragon to maintain the governance until Colony is out. What do you think?
I was waiting for Colony as well since it seems so great but its been so long and still nothing. I'm worried that since the ICO craze died out they lost interest in the project.
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what packages does Alpine linux use?
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I will do my best to present a click-through prototype by end of next week so you can get a sense of the concept. Got distracted by moving Cinema 4D scenes to Blender :D
sweet! I used blender for the ark's animation
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sweet! I used blender for the ark's animation
It looks great! I moved all the scene files to Blender, wasn't possible to achieve the same great detail as C4D+Vray but it's getting closer. The files are on Github
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I was waiting for Colony as well since it seems so great but its been so long and still nothing. I'm worried that since the ICO craze died out they lost interest in the project.
I couldn't agree more about about the ICO madness but tokens can bring some fresh air to open source projects as contributors can now have financial incentive. If Colony fails then there is plan B which is Aragon + some old school governance.
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March 8, 2019 at 5:34am
I couldn't agree more about about the ICO madness but tokens can bring some fresh air to open source projects as contributors can now have financial incentive. If Colony fails then there is plan B which is Aragon + some old school governance.
Is there any date you want to have a working prototype by?
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Is there any date you want to have a working prototype by?
Having a prototype at any point in time will be a dream come true :D I think there is tons of work to be done on the UX of the OS. The hardware itself needs tons of discussion. I love the materials in Punkt MP02 and the TFT display looks amazing especially in bright sunlight https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=-K0ZYhocssU. I think keeping a small size factor it's a great concept considering that it's a comms device, not an entertainment one. But is it going to be comfortable to use an on screen touch keyboard? The modules at the bottom are tricky as well, currently i've designed the OS' UX around always having a home button, this means that if there is a camera module then it would needs a home button. So maybe that home button should be optional?!
Either way my short-term roadmap will be to finalise the OS design and if you want you can try it on your Ark Kit :) For the EC01 we would need a product designer/engineer
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March 8, 2019 at 4:54pm
wow i was looking for usb hubs and came across how to have a working prototype of the bottom modules https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N47J1GA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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it could be shaped similar to this and send data to the device through usb c for now
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and sweet. is there anyone part of the team that will work on the OS?
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March 10, 2019 at 10:42am
wow i was looking for usb hubs and came across how to have a working prototype of the bottom modules https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N47J1GA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Wow! I think usb might be too wobbly and magnetic not strong enough. I was thinking of some sort of a twisting mechanism. The USB will work for a prototype tho!
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March 15, 2019 at 7:12pm
The surface magnet is pretty strong.
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is there anyone on the team that has experience with making hardware?
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that could make the twisting mechanism
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March 16, 2019 at 12:38pm
is there anyone on the team that has experience with making hardware?
Well there is barely a team, just me working conceptually on the projects. And bunch of human joining for few days with ideas and that's it :D I was thinking that might be nice if The Arc and Clarity join forces as both missions are really close.
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March 20, 2019 at 4:00pm
Well there is barely a team, just me working conceptually on the projects. And bunch of human joining for few days with ideas and that's it :D I was thinking that might be nice if The Arc and Clarity join forces as both missions are really close.
How would join forces look like?
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cause theyre both hardware projects. The OS could run on both
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March 22, 2019 at 5:48pm
have you thought of making screen types be modular as well? So swapping for a E-ink displays for those who use there devices solely on solar power.
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