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clarify future support of docker on now platform

November 8, 2018 at 6:21pm
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clarify future support of docker on now platform

November 8, 2018 at 6:21pm
It seems zeit is moving away from allowing customers to utilize Docker as a common 'primitive'; would you kindly clarify this?
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November 9, 2018 at 7:33pm
I want to re-assure everyone that we are 100% confident that this is the right direction for the platform. We wouldn't call this 2.0 if I wasn't deeply convinced that is is the future of deployment and code execution.
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It's true that *some* use cases are still not addressed, which is why we didn't just phase out v1. We are working on a lot of very exciting features, builders and integrations that I'm confident will make all your web applications work great on Now 2.0.
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We have been exploring the tradeoff space between processes and functions, containers and lambdas, for a long time. We understand the problem extremely well, and we have seen and learned first hand what scales and what doesn't.
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Are you planning to support deployment of, e.g., web services with multiple endpoints, implemented e.g. with Python Flask, without making changes to the code?
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How about websocket over lambda ? I would be happy to refactor a monothlic to lambda, as soon as it supports websocket connection. Thanks.
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we are investing quite a bit into our Python builder right now, as a matter of fact. We have a lot of good news coming for the python community :)
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That's one of our top priorities to address. As the creator of socket.io, I know exactly what works and what doesn't. I have been researching realtime apps for a very long time now, and I'm confident Now is going to be the best place to host them and scale them to billions of users.
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Here's the kind of interesting thing. Now is a unique company in that we're never going to lower the bar of ambition. We think we can give you the best of both worlds: ease of use and planet-wide scalability.
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Throughout a journey like this, you'll find that some initial assumptions sometimes need to be tweaked.
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In this case they're being tweaked so that you never worry about your next app taking over the world and dealing with billions of requests per day.
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Please don't forget the Apollo community :D I know you guys have a lot to handle right now, but we were super excited to host everything on now. I hope with get more details on this new approach on the coming weeks
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It's really not a bad tradeoff to make, all things considered.
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I meant it when I wrote in the blog post that my main priority is to address all the customer workloads perfectly.
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I also wouldn't be calling this 2.0 if we had to reject entire classes of interesting applications.
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Also, everyone is free and welcome to email me directly at [email protected]
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And I'm happy to jump on a call with any teams that need further reassurance.
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I am sorry. I must be missing something. What does this mean exactly? "00% confident that this is the right direction for the platform"? Does this mean you do not believe that docker is a good tool for production deployments? The only alternative interpretation I can make, is that the Zeit Now platform has many more non-docker than docker deployments, and then, it makes sense from Now's perspective, but it also means a "hard goodbye" to anyone seeking docker builds.
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what is your approach to "address all the customer workloads perfectly"? Is there a place we can submit use-cases that don't have an apparent fit for 2.0?
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we are aware of several of them, please let me know if I forgot any:
- GraphQL servers like Apollo Server
- WebSocket subscriptions
- Control loops (e.g.: tailing a cursor from a database)
- Cron jobs
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All of these will be addressed, and others as well!
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Can we still create an entire application on now 1.0 and choose a 1.0 plan? I definitely can't use 2.0 in it's current state.
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I think , the now.json should accept all versions. It will make all of us happy !
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What about elasticsearch?
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it does
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that was never possible to host to begin with, we only ever supported non-durable workloads
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