@gloriousyellow

we'll definitely make that possible. We have many super interesting use-cases for it in mind

Also, in response to feedback here about finding the v1 plans, the great

@evilrabbit

just shipped an improvement:

My usecase requires docker so 🤷‍♂️.

@revskill

What I don't need is yet another external service for my application to depend upon. What I need is an always-on NodeJS application instance (minimum 1, with the ability to scale as needed) that can handle persistent websocket connections -- unless I'm mistaken and the new architecture will support this.

@rauchg

what happens when you use v1 apps on a v2 plan?

@peterm

What i mean is looking at Pusher.JS as a successful real-time story to learn from. So we could utilize something like that right from Now v2 !

@jackca

seems like you're billed on-demand

$0.025/hr

@alin-panaitiu

oh yikes, I'll need to downgrade then...

I tried, there doesn't seem to be a way to do that

@revskill

Gotcha. I suppose then it'd be another proprietary module I'd have to import that would only integrate with Zeit's cloud.

yeah just discovering that too -- that's super concerning.

@rauchg

, is there a way to downgrade to a legacy plan? I'm not able to deploy any of my apps to v2 and am now going to be paying $18 per month per deployment

I wonder how many users that upgraded, don't know about this forced on-demand billing and will get a >$50 bill on a supposedly $15 plan

@alin-panitiu

we have a very clear disclaimer on the modal

@jackca

please email [email protected] and we'll take care of it, no stress

same for you Alin!

not at all proprietary, and not at all specific to our cloud

Meaning: it's just another API, like Stripe

Thanks

@rauchg

!

So you will support websockets in v2?

Let me tell you my use case: I'm developing a tcp server to listen to GPS devices to trigger that event to other microservices/lambdas. I hope Now V2 should support this specific use case without relying on 3rd party services like Pusher.js

@rauchg

Do you confirm we can no longer chose the Premium/Pro/Advanced plans and that we are forced into On demand plan? (Now 1.0)

@rauchg

thx for answering some questions here and shedding some light on the motivation to move to a lambda future for Now.

My last thoughts on this.

In terms of scalability your absolutely right lambda functions do scale very well. But you know what also scales really well? An index.html file on a cdn. The reality of real world applications is that there is often loads of complexity to deal with. As much as we engineers try to push back on the requirements there is often just no way around that.

Many of us have been to lambda land and saw it was not as elegant and graceful as it's often portrait in hello word examples. Maybe you guys can change that.

When you say: "We will provide good alternatives for the vast majority of use cases that are hard in a lambda environment." I really believe you and I think you and your team of awesome engineers will do a great job at that. But in this statement there also lies the problem. You will never be able to cater to everyone's needs. That's just what I liked so much about your "docker as a primitive" vision for cloud computing. You guys just needed to get really good/fast at orchestrating and optimizing docker containers and anything could be done on the service.

Building such a system, as you guys did, is probably hard as hell but I could not agree more with

@nathaniel

: "why the rush to get rid of serverless docker? It is still an amazing product, that has a massive competitive advantage over any other offering I've seen!"

I was so delighted to see all these new examples in the repository. Who ever thought we would be able to deploy Wordpress on Now. I just felt like you guys were really on to something revolutionary... and now you are just one of many.

Sorry if I sound harsh but you must understand that such a dramatic shift in the product direction is going to leave some customers/fans disappointed about the future of product. Than again, disappointing customers sometimes exactly what you have to do to achieve your vision.

I will try to move a few of my personal projects to v2. The company wide decision to move to Now is of the table for now.